Hey everyone,
Im almost done with my first map, but these stupid lights are making me mad. I searched the forums and thought i found an answer to the problem. And the problem is that my lighting looks like crap, and theres some places that have like black spots on it. I started using the scale option with the ligts but its still looking bad. I try using radius and no go. I just need some expert advice on the subject cuz i want to be done with this map.
Please reply soon!!
:) Thanks,
Frodo
ummm
Load your map, take a screenshot. Upload it to a server, like
http://www.imageshack.us/)
Come back here. Type in the URL with the [img] tags, and the screenshot will appear here.
btw... i see that your a scripter i have nt looked lol but whats a tutorial for me to use . Cuz i know i need to know how to do some of that stuff to have really good maps .....i think, but id like to learn anyways. And PS ......Jesus does Own
Are all the lights in your map triggered? if so what are you using to trigger them? Also are you using a compile that has the -light switch in it?
ok heres the deal. My map keeps saying max vert 12, that whole crap
i searched and found out why, but i cant get my game to stop sayin it. Ive tryed copying the map and takig out brushes that have more than 12 vertices. No go. So i kept looking and finally i saw a post that talked about using te -lomen in the q3map program, so i got it and ive been doing a bsp and light phase in my compile. thats all i can think to do. so all that jsut to answer your quiestion : some rooms have lights atached to a trig multi with the use switch cliked. so the lights turned of and on. but i have soo many lights... like one room has like 12 lights and i just think im doing it wrong. So thats why i just had those 5 scaled 4xs. but my floor is all black not know y.
So ill make a pic of the q3map compileers im using
http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5998/q3map.jpg)
ive been doig the light and bsp normal process
Lord Frodo
Frodo let me see his, I ran brushcleanup (it removed 157 invalid brushes.. well.. it was like 150...)
Heres the compile log:
2.5.14
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Q3Map - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14
GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19
The Red Swingline
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Fog 0 has visible side 5
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2.5.14
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Q3Map - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14
GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19
The Red Swingline
VFS Init: C:/Program Files/LucasArts/Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy/GameData/base/
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************ ERROR ************
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2.5.14
1 threads
Q3Map - v1.0r (c) 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.14
GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 7 2004 19:55:19
The Red Swingline
VFS Init: C:/Program Files/LucasArts/Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy/GameData/base/
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As you can see, I didnt run light all the way through, but he has a bunch of errors!
hey yall just to clear somthing up.. the reason theres soo many warnings about the textures is because he only had the map file not hte textures soo disregard that part. :)
Don't make those lights switchable. Switchable lights count as lights with lightstyles.
Instead, you could try to use the key 'ambient' in Worldspawn. (Global light.)
Key: Ambient
Value: 50
That should do it.
Next time I see someone posting that, I'll strangle him.
hey gothix were you saying that you did nt wnat someone to do a ambient light?
and also what did you mean there like lights with light styles
thanks man
Ambient light sucks more than all of wedge's maps combined *ducks to avoid incoming axe*, hence you should never use it.
"WARNING: Hit per-surface style limit (4)" says you have more than four switchable lights on one map triangle.
Don't make those lights switchable. Switchable lights count as lights with lightstyles.
Well, for my trailer I had some scripted lights (it added to the effect, I made the lights blue because of all the purplish/bluish junk around the dark jedi.) Do they count as lights with lightstyles? I mean, there really isnt a difference I guess.
These errors caught my eye:
BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS Entity 229, Brush 0: Entity leaked
************ ERROR ************
MAX_MAP_VISIBILITY exceeded
Fog 0 has visible side 5
Fog 1 has visible side 2
Fog 2 has visible side 0
(Your fog isnt textured correctly. I guess you need caulk_fog or nodraw on it...)
And as for this:
Script file shaders/impdetention.shader was not found
I removed the impdetention from my shaders directory (it comes with GTK, but is NOT included in Jedi Academy's Assets.pk3s) I figured there is no need for it, and it messes up the Vjun levels!
Patch bogus and leaks don't affect lightmaps, nor does MAX_MAP_VISIBILITY. We al know what the last two errors are, the first one is more tricky. Patch bogus happens when you create a patch without an actual volume, which occurs when you try to hit "Cap" on a cone, in example. The top doesn't need a cap, bnut it will be created without having an actual volume.
Good luck finding those.. ;)
*roars at GothicX and starts chucking nuclear bombs at him*
well yall heres the funny thing... i dont have any fog. lol
ummm so max vis doesnt jack stuff up?
-frodo
Make all the things that don't show up right func_doors, then open up entities window and select Inactive. I had the same problem in my Lair of Silence. Only problem with this is, if you throw a det, or a trip mine on the "door" the det or trip mine blows up instantly. Or put more lights really close to the floor.
Remember that water is fog.