figure out that you could not kill Katarn by Force, at the end of Sith?
  
 
  
  
    2 years and I'm still trying to.
  
 
  
  
    About 10 minutes. After the first round, I turned on the invincibility cheat and turned off the AI. When that didn't help, I spotted the wall panel, reactivated the AI, and shut off my saber.
 
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 "The Beasts know much that we do not." -Ancient Jedi proverb
  
 
  
  
    I was playing the game straight for FIVE hours. I figured, because the Dark Mara was absolutey ROCK hard, and took a long time to beat, that Dark Kyle must take even longer. It did not help matters that I did the "put the lightsaber away" thing with the Dark Mara who then proceeded to slay me. Those last few levels were some of the most intuativley designed I have ever seen!
  
 
  
  
    My fight with Dark Mara was funny.
 
 I pushed her into the water(from where you came in) and I kept hitting her with lightning.
  
 
  
  
    Theoretically, you can drown her by pushing her under repeatedly.
 
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 "The Beasts know much that we do not." -Ancient Jedi proverb
  
 
  
  
    *SPOILER ALER - Heck, this whole thread is a spoiler *
 
 I think the first time I got to the end, I tried for about five minutes (the time it took me to kill him the first time roughly, playing on hard). Then I switched off my saber to punch his lights out, and that's when it happened. ; )
 
 Since then I've tried and tried, but to no avail. I wish you COULD kill him and get a different ending.
 
 Kurgan
  
 
  
  
    That woulda been cool.... have the temple take you (mara) in his place or somthing...
 
 PS you will all think it's bull but about 30 seconds...
 
 
 
 
 [This message has been edited by Anubis (edited April 06, 2000).]